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The two occasionally adopt the same style in order to mess with people, like when Vivi takes advantage of this to pull a prank on Rean. Why nobody decided to carry him when they all went to Crow is anyone's guess. If it wasn't for Rufus' timely appearance, who knows what Duke Cayenne would have done with the crown prince.

To make it worse, the whole reason Crow had gotten wounded in the first place was because two boss fight previous, everyone had been so busy talking to Crow that they failed to notice Cayenne taking Cedric and using him to revive Testa-Rossa, triggering another round of boss fights. Cold Steel IV gives another one for Class VII where they didn't have an escape plan when they decided to break Rean out of the Black Workshop in case their mission was gonna fail it wasn't, otherwise the plot wouldn't progress and Rean wouldn't be able to take up the protagonist mantle or if they get cornered by the bad guys which did happen.

Rean, who just woke up from his berserk self, still tired from barely any sleep, all chained up, and probably malnourished, had to come up with an Indy Ploy to get out of there by signalling Gaius and Emma. Blessed be the man that spares these stones, And cursed be he that moves my bones. I'm Standing Right Here : In Cold Steel IVthe party compliments Tita on the power of her Orbal Gear, The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD) notes that she didn't have to stick with them, that she could have stuck with Agate and helped him and her other friends from Liberl.

She tells them that she's a branch campus student first and foremost and she explained all of this to Agate the night before. Ash suggests that something else may have happened between her and Agate afterwards, but she replies that he just gave a little smile and patted her on the head. Altina says that as far as head-pats go, it was probably more innocent that the ones that Rean gives out, Musse saying that she might be right, but that Rean doesn't realize the implications of what he's doing half the time.

Those beautiful stories about passionate men. Two merchants had their stalls robbed, Heinz who sold accessories and Marco who sold produce. Elliot asks the army if they had any leads on where Marco's stole bracelets were. The army corrects him that it was actually Heinz who had bracelets stolen The next five Chapters are spent explaining how they got there. Internal Reveal : Lots of them and extra lots if you include things the audience didn't explicitly know but could guess with high accuracy based on past gamesincluding Alisa revealing what the 'R' in her last name is short for to the entire group and Emma revealing to Rean just how she's able to do some of the stunts she's performed over the course of the game.

Some of these are limited to Bond Events while others occur during the normal plot. Instant Expert : Played straight and then almost immediately subverted. While being chosen by a Divine Knight grants an Awakener the knowledge of how to operate one, that doesn't mean you'll know how to operate it wellas Crow points out that his three year head start gives him an overwhelming advantage over Rean including the knowledge of how to use Ordine's Super Modejust before he kicks Rean's ass.

Played straight with Instructor Neithardt in the sequel, who's able to pilot a Spiegel very effectively despite having no experience with one before. His test fight against Rean is one of the tougher mech battles up to that point, to boot. It's so boring - if he were in Crossbell, he "could bring up some swimsuit babes just like that. During the concert, the final song has five singers, three guitarists, a drummer and a keyboarder.

All the music comes from one voice and a keyboard, with the guitars, percussion, or backup singers participating at all. Had they went to the other route, they would have found the entrance to the Black Workshop.

Weaponized again by Gilbert in Cold Steel IVwhere he tries to surrender except its a ploy for him to hand you a grenade. Except he accidentally drops it, damaging you and him in the process. I Think You Broke Her : Millium delivered this line when Elliot changed into his Drill Sergeant modestating nobody was allowed to get out of the old school building until their concert rehearsal was finished Though Emma's reaction has more to do with the revealing concert dress she's going to have to wear while singing in front of the whole school in a few days than the rehearsal schedule.

So, come on, Emma! Just grin and bear it! But then Alberich detonates the Courageous while still in the sky, supposedly killing off Olivert, Toval, and Victor still inside. Even Duvalie, who was mildly worried about the prospect of fighting the Master Swordsmanthought it was a bit too much and Campanella thinking that it was very tasteless. Cold Steel IV reveals that they all survived but not without cost.

Nerf : In Cold Steel IIIdelay is "kind of nerfed" in the sense that crafts in general are more, if not twice as expensive to cast, not to mention that Rean lost Arc Slash.

Instead, his new line attack now inflicts a chance to burn. Many crafts from the first two games either have their costs increased, delegated as Brave Order effects or are removed altogether. During mech battles, you can only restore EP when using "Charge". It used to restore EP when it was introduced in II. New Transfer Student : Wouldn't be a school story without one!

Specifically, two students transfer into Class VII over the course of the game. One is Crow, who is making up for missed work in his regular classes and the other is Millium, who isn't actually eligible to attend Thors she's too young and only gets in because someone is pulling strings.

Also, both of their stints in Class VII are meant to be temporary and both were well known to the player and characters before they appeared. All in all, it's almost a subversion of the usual trope. No, Mr. Bond, I Expect You to Dine : Rean spends a subchapter of Cold Steel II aboard the rebel flagship, where he spends most of his time being treated to meals and socializing with people who had been bosses over the past game and a half. Not-So-Innocent Whistle In Chapter 4, when everyone receives their field study assignments, Rean sees that he's been assigned to a group with Laura and Fie, who are currently conflicting, and suggests to Instructor Sara that he's being used again.

Sara's only response is this. Rean That innocent whistling isn't fooling anyone. Each Chapter also has one or two people filling this role while you're on field training. Rank Inflation : Unlike previous arcs, this arc makes the relative damage of Arts and Crafts more transparent by giving them letter ranks in their descriptions.

You accumulate AP within each chapter or part, and if you get the most, you get S rank. The lowest rank seems to be C because you're actually required to complete certain quests for AP in order to progress in the story. It seems that Game Over is actually the lowest rank because the theme that plays if you get a Game Over is called "Failing Marks The base is full of the corpses of the soldiers on duty by the time the party arrives and one character remarks on the scent of blood and gunpowder.

Players of the previous games know that while Class VII will succeed here, the cannon they're trying to protect will ultimately be fired later and help start the very war they were trying to prevent. This is far more blatant in Cold Steel II. Despite having a large number of new songs in the soundtrack, this sequel recycled a lot of music from the first game as a cost-saving measure.

Heck, if you dive into the game data, almost? Cold Steel IV isn't as bad about this, compared with IIhaving a rather larger original soundtrack. Red Baron : A series tradition, continued here. Professor Beatrix: The Reviver. Redemption Demotion : Ordine is briefly playable in Cold Steel IIbut has far lower stats than his boss version, to the point of being a Glass Cannon compared to Valimar.

Relationship Values : You can choose to spend free time with party members and a few NPCs to gain their affection and trigger a special scene at the end of both games. Resurrective Immortality : Awakeners for Divine Knights can come back from the dead as long as their Divine Knights are still intact. To balance this, the Divine Knights are synchronised to their respective Awakeners' senses meaning that whenever it takes damage, the Awakener feels pain in the corresponding areas.

This means that the only way to kill an Awakener is to defeat the Divine Knight itself in combat. It's also revealed in the epilogue of Cold Steel IV that if an Awakener has died before and resurrected thanks to his Divine Knight, he will die alongside it when they vanish for good as his life is tied to it. Rewatch Bonus : The first game has a lot of this, either replaying it after having beat it, or replaying it having beaten the second game.

Among things, knowing the true identity of "C", as well as certain comments and meetings seen between characters who you don't learn certain things about until Cold Steel II. Rhythm Game : Swimming operates like this, with the player alternating the pressing of two buttons to make Rean swim faster, with the beats coming quicker as he speeds up.

Rich Bitch : Patrick Hyarms is a male example. He's cut down to size by the even richer but slighly less bitchy Jusis, as well as by the definitely not rich Gaius. Later in the original game, he starts displaying some redeeming qualities. He's a lot better by the second game and by Cold Steel IIIhe has for all intents and purposes completely reformed, to the point of issuing an official apology to Gaius for how out-of-line he acted in the first game.

Running Gag : Rean being mistaken for Alisa's boyfriend by the people of Roer. Can implicitly turn into Everyone Can See It if the player chooses to focus on Alisa's bonding events. First Jusis's older brother, Rufus, then Alisa's mother, Irina. By the time you get to Machias's father, Imperial governor Karl Regnitz, it hardly comes as a shock, at least to the player, though the characters are still pretty stunned by it. It was determined this wouldn't work well for the English-language version, so it was changed to a selection of important lines from the previous game.

If no girl is chosen or if the chosen girl was one of the three listed, then Celine ends up screaming Rean's name. Scenery Porn : Nord Highlands are gorgeous and are treated as such in-universe as well. The greenery and flowers around Trista are pretty nice also and are often commented on.

The members of your playable party are all members of a school club, except for the main protagonist, Rean Schwarzer. Although he doesn't join any one particular club, he often spends his time helping the student council and is also unofficially a member of the fishing club. However, Rean is now an instructor of the newly established Thors Branch Campus, which does have school clubs, personally funded by the principal, who felt that they were too strong a part of the legacy of Thors to get rid of.

She makes it requirement for the students to either join one or be placed on the student council. School Festival : Thors holds one every year. It's the setting for the final Chapter. School Swimsuit : There is a swimming club and associated minigame so these appear. Scienceville : The city of Roer in Erebonia is devoted entirely to the development of orbal technology.

Being run by the prestigious Reinford Group Alisa's familyit houses the famous Roer Institute of Technology where scientists and engineers graduate from, and many technological displays such as the escalator are more prominent here than in any other location in the country.

It's also the birthplace of the Courageous. Class VII's mission is to prevent that from happening in the final chapter. Unfortunately for them however, not only did they horribly fail, but Rean ends up doing the deed himself and kills the Divine Beast with Millium as the sword. Secret A. Moves : A game-within-a-game example. When playing against Professor Schmidt in the 3rd game, he uses a unique Master card you never have access to: the Sorcerer. It also has the fairly broken ability to create Magic Crystal cards at will.

Aurier, the Bonus Boss of Vantage Masters who can only be challenged if you have all 22 cardsalso has an exclusive Master: the Paladin. Frustratingly, the Vanish spell card, which you can use, tauntingly states that it does more damage if your Master is the Paladin, despite you never having access to this combo.

Sempai Kouhai : Class VII gets a lot of behind the scenes support and teasing from a group of second-year students, Towa and Crow in particular. Sequel Hook : Much like the Crossbell arc before it, the saga ends with several major teases for future installments.

Calvard is stated to be going through major civil unrest, and all of East Zemuria is implied to be undergoing unnatural desertification. Most of the mysteries regarding the other worlds beyond Zemuria are left unknown. Cedric joins Ouroboros, who announces the end of the Phantasmal Blaze Plan and the beginning of the next phase of the Orpheus Final Plan - the Eternal Regression Plan, which will presumably be the focus of the next saga. Finally, the Grandmaster herself makes her first onscreen appearance in the series, and ominously declares that only three years remain before 'the nothingness of all' Sequence Breaking : It's only available for PC versions but in Cold Steel IIIit is possible to go out of bounds and access areas far earlier than they should be able to just by using either Ash or Jusis since their field attacks move them forward.

It gets sillier when the party leader can run in the air at Einhell Keep. Beryl asks you to investigate them for her. All have disappointingly mundane explanations, like the 'hole in the field containing a corpse' is just the place where students buried failing exams.

Afterwards, Rean asks why she doesn't count the definitely mysterious Old Schoolhouse as one of the seven mysteries. She implies that of course it's included In Cold Steel IIwhen the Reverie Corridor appears in the Old Schoolhouse, she tells Rean that he's fortunate to be one of the lucky few that gets to see the truth behind the 'eighth' of the academy's seven mysteries.

Sequential Boss : Cold Steel is in love with this trope and it happens at least once per Chapter. Cold Steel II's Finale ends in a 5-part battle. First the main party against Crow and Vita, then a Divine Knight battle between the Azure and Ashen Knights, followed by the characters not involved in the first fight and Rean fighting against the Vermillion Apocalypse End Of Vermillion in Japanesethen Rean and the team from the first fight against Vermillion Apocalypse, and finally, to end it all, Ashen and Azure Knights teaming up against Vermillion Apocalypse.

A far less serious example is the decisive sparring match against Patrick in the Epilogue. First, Team and one classmate fights Patrick and Celestin, then Ferris and Vincent show up The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD) challenge Rean to a 3-on-3 match. Patrick even asks himself just what he's set in motion. Serial Escalation : First game starts with the protagonist's first day at a military academy, making it feel like one of those Japanese fantasy school games.

By the end of the third game several people close to the protagonist is presumed dead with one confirmed dead, a bunch of Face Heel Turns and betrayals has occurred and the Big Bad has practically won and is holding the protagonist by the neck. And the fourth game? Series Fauxnale : Trails of Cold Steel II resolves many of the major plot points that were introduced in the first game's Cliffhanger ending, such as Crow's betrayal, the Erebonian Civil War, and even the situation in Crossbell.

After the main plot is resolved, Class VII is able to successfully graduate without any pressing problems to deal with, and Rean is implied to have peacefully spent his next and final year at Thors without incident. When III does continue the story, it opts to do so after a significant Time Skip of one and a half years, by which time Rean has long since finished his education and is now an instructor himself. Shadow Archetype : Patrick to Jusis. Both are privileged sons of the Four Families, are proud, are skilled with a sword and look down on Commoners.

The difference is that one is a Jerkass with very few redeeming qualities and the other becomes a valued companion. Or at least at first, anyway. It later turns out the former actually ends up being quite a nice guy too once he finally gets his head on straight and undergoes some charater development.

Ship Tease : Rean and Alisa get lots of moments of this. Rean gets it with much of the cast due to Relationship values even some teachers. Jusis and Millium. Jusis is always willing to entertain and dragged around by Millium despite how much he grumbles about it. Extremely Harsher in Hindsight given that Millium dies at the end of the third game, though at the end of the fourth game, she gets better.

Shoot the Rope : Sara is unimpressed with Fie's cunning attempt to avoid the mandatory orientation. Shout-Out : Towards the end of the first game, "Dost thou desire the power? The chef at Thors' Student Union is named Ramsay. A trio of villains consisting of a short-haired male planner, a hulking man with a huge weapon and a stripperiffic female mage, Gideon, Vulcan and Scarlet or Guruda, Gadis and Bammy?

Another shoutout to Ys happens in the Chapter 3 free day if you happen to choose to bond with Laura and help her shop- she finds a Dogi strap attractive. In chapter 4 of the first game there is a quest named "Made for Walking" which involves walking around in a new pair of shoes, a reference to the Nancy Sinatra song "These Boots are made for Walking".

Loa Erebonius in Cold Steel I is a massive one to the Gagharv Trilogy and one fans have been wondering whether Falcom would make ever since FC regarding whether there was a connection between Erebonia as the name of the Empire and Erebonius, the Spirit of Darkness in Cagesong's summon magic system.

The resemblance is enhanced by the fact that C and Zero apparently use the same tailor. The resemblance is made even stronger when, during their first appearance in the first game, the cutscenes actually shows them lowering some wheels next to or behind the Soldats' feet to allow them to skate around instead of having to walk really slowly.

Vulcan states before the party faces him in Chapter 6 of the original Cold Steel that "better to burn out than fade away," which is close to a line from the Neil Young song "Hey Hey, My My Into the Black. This continues to some degree in Cold Steel II as well, although not simply with dating achievements.

The Jormungand is a serpent boss. Love theme from Titanic Another is called "Nord by Nord-east," which would seem to be a nod to an annual Canadian music festival, North by Northeast. In Emma's bonding event in Roer in Cold Steel IIshe mentions reading a book about "sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic. The collective name of their most powerful members?

True Ancestors. The one for Sara is titled " My Funny Valestein. An early sidequest in the third game which involves helping out with a certain spice is simply called " The Spice Must Flow ". The similarities do stop right there, though, as Arc-en-Ciel has a different number of members, not to mention the type of entertainment they provide dance performances instead of rock concerts and the members' gender.

After the party gains use of the Merkabah in in Cold Steel IVRean finds Celine hanging out in the cabin area drinking from a bowl of milk. He comments "Uh Got milk, Celine? The concert and festival in general nearly gets cancelled as a result if not for Rean and the others volunteering to investigate it. Duke Albarea has his family crest or tapestries bearing his family crest on the walls of his manor every ten feet or so.

It even shares their colors. Played straight in Cold Steel II. Cold Steel IV has the protagonists alternate between Merkabahs 2 and 8 before ending up with the Courageous II as the latter's predecessor was blown up in the previous game. Skirts and Ladders : During a sequence in the first game in the Sachsen Iron Mine, Angelica displays awareness of this trope by ordering the boys of the party to climb a ladder first, followed by the girls, who are all wearing skirts and then takes advantage of it herself by following along behind them.

Slice-and-Dice Swordsmanship : Almost everyone who uses a sword or a bladed weapon in this game will slash targets but never use it to thrust them. Small Role, Big Impact : Zoro-Agruga, the undead dragon that serves as the final beatable boss of the fourth chapter, appears to be just a monster that G calls up with his magic flute, but the Black Records in Cold Steel II reveal that in life, that monster drove everyone out of Heimdallr for centuries, was only killed by a Divine Knight piloted by the then-Emperor, and that the corruption said Divine Knight was exposed to by fighting it turned Testa-Rossa into the Vermillion Apocalypse, which played a major part in the War of the Lions and served as the final boss of the main game in Cold Steel II.

Cold Steel III reveals that the corruption didn't even stop there. The Holy Beast of Earth, Algrest fell to the curse in it's attempt to contain the corruption, becoming the Nameless One. SNK Boss : A comparatively mild example, and it's a minigame at that, but Vantage Masters in the third games has three opponents whose decks are quite literally stacked against you, Rutger during the main story, and Schmidt and Aurier in optional duels.

All three have Master cards that the player can never obtain in III as well as powerful decks in general, though Rutger will allow you to use a copy of his deck for an AP penalty. See Secret A. Moves Snow Means Love : In Cold Steel IIafter each of the dormitory events with Rean's chosen partner towards the beginning of the Finale section, the view cuts to the outside of the dormitory to show it gently snowing.

If your chosen partner was one of the female characters, then it certainly means love. If a male character, then, well, a strong friendship at least note Or Ho Yayif you want to go that route. So Much for Stealth : Rean betrays his presence to Emma and Celine during an optional scene by stepping on a twig. Soundtrack Dissonance : The ending song "I Miss You" is set to an upbeat tune which is totally at odds with the scenes that take place immediately beforehand.

This is deliberate since the lyrics also don't match the tone either but are very appropriate to the situation and Falcom does all its music in-house so the song was 'made to order'.

Spell My Name with an "S" : As always. Rean can cause a little trouble; it can be tempting to read his name as "Re-ahn", but the actual kana pronunciation is more like "Riin"; it rhymes with "lean", basically. It's clear what Falcom was going for, but the unconventional nature of the name catches some people. Fie runs into the problem more seriously; looking at the given English spelling, you might think it's pronounced as in "oh, fie!

Nope and nope; the actual pronunciation is closest to "Fee", as in the sort you pay. This one actually does lead to debate as to how to best spell it, since going with "Fie" leads to new or casual fans consistently mispronouncing her name. At least some of the Trial Chests in Cold Steel II try to help make it clear how her name is pronounced with some of the puns. Place names don't escape, either; after five solid games of consistent spelling as "Erebonia" and "Zemuria" when they do come up in English characters in the Japanese versionsall of a sudden Cold Steel is very insistent about calling the two E l ebonia and Zemlyarespectively.

This one is likely to be ignored by any future Trails releases in English, as the place names were already established as the former in Sky FC 's English release. What's even worse is that it's not impossible that Zemlya was always the intended spellingbut between a decade of "Zemuria" being previously used and Zemuria appearing prominently as a word in one official English release, it's likely the term won't be "corrected". There's also a little debate as to whether the capital of Erebonia is Heimdall or Heimdall reven in official sources.

A particularly funny one involved one of the organizations in the game, as its official badge graphic read "Train Milita l y Police". This one was caught by even the Japanese fans the instant it went live on the website. Fans quickly noticed and it has been since then changed into its original spelling "Arianrhod. With the game remastered with higher quality visuals when released on Steam, this issue becomes much more pronounced as previously low-resolution textures are now replaced with high-resolution ones and their text are far more legible than before.

A lot of these were fixed with a huge unannounced patch that was released on October 11, The above Train Milita l y Police mistake reappears in a short cutscene outside the meeting room at the start of Chapter 4's field study, as well as some less noticeable logos inside the room itself. J elato reappears too at Dreichels Plaza. Though most of the "Train Militaly" ones got fixed, a partially obscured one found on the floor of the room was missed.

In Chapter 6, one of the signposts on the highway actually spells YmirRean's hometown, as Y u mirand the same mistake appears on the map of the train lines - the line from Roer to Ymir is the Yumir branch line.

In the same chapter, the signboard for Roer airport spells the town's name as Ro u r. In the final chapter, the mallet used for the Mishy Panic minigame actually has Mi c hy Panic written on it. The background in the room also spells Mishy with a cas does all the posters around campus. While the texture patch fixes the posters and the background of the room, strangely enough Durante missed out the logo that's part of the texture of the mallet.

Spoiler Opening : The first game's opening spoils a couple of the game's more significant plot threads, such as Emma's link to Celine and, more notably, the existence of Valimar and the Divine Knights. The second game's opening spoils where each of the party members is located the first third of the game is spend finding them alland Towa becoming captain of The Courageous.

The third game's opening doesn't even bother hiding the fact that Rean fights with Azure Siegfried who is actually Crow, the Courageous blowing up, and Osborne with the Nameless One. Starfish Language : Airgetlam speaks in monospaced Cyrillic letters. Stats Dissonance : Fie, given Foresight and the proper Quartz setup, along with her natural Evasion, effectively gains Super Reflexesbeing impossible to hit by dodging every attack.

But that was unintentional on Falcom 's part. The greater potential that "dodge tanking" allows makes Fie more practical to bring into tough battles to absorb enemy punishment than the traditional Mighty Glacier Laura. Given the lake's unusual appearance, the sudden appearance of an ancient shrine by it and the fact that you fight actual monsters, throughout the series, the idea of there actually being a creature like this isn't necessarily farfetched.

It's just that there's no photos or confirmed sightings of it so far. Of course, as players of the game already know, cryptid monsters are a real thing in the world of Zemuria. If you do one of Juna's bonding events, you get to see the creature and later you a given a The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD) to fight the monster: Galliosaurus.

Story Difficulty Setting : Playing the games on the easiest difficulty allows players to enjoy the story while stomping on boss fights more easily than on harder difficulties. Succession Crisis : The War of the Lions was a five-way civil war that was set off when the heir apparent to the Erebonian Throne was assassinated shortly after the death of his father, resulting in all his half-siblings going to war over who had the best claim.

Suddenly Voiced : Inverted, originally, as many characters who spoke with voiced lines in the first game Patrick, Principal Vandyck, S and V have their lines as unvoiced text in the second game and only speak during their battles. Played straight, however, with Lt. The PC Steam version of the original game contains over 5, lines of voiced dialogue that was previously text-only, resulting in this for certain characters.

Among others is a Provincial Army Officer at the end of Chapter 2 with a Scottish accent completed with heavily rolled Rs. Olaf Craig gains some voiced dialogue in this port as well, and Patrick Hyarms is another character that seems to have a lot more voiced dialogue.

The same is also true with Cold Steel IIand in some cases inverts the inversion previously described. In Cold Steel IVeveryone's favorite fortune-teller, Beryl, has a couple of lines of voiced dialogue after not having been voiced previously.

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Many of our volunteers have never recorded anything before LibriVox. This will make it easier for everyday users to get the most out of their cameras, as Nikon has been diligent about updating its camera in the past with new functions and features. Let's take a look at how the Nikon Z7 II stacks up against some other stabilized, full-frame cameras on the market. Put the Z7 II next to the original Z7 and you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between them.

Indeed, the only differences of any consequence are the slightly taller memory card door to accommodate the dual slots and the small 'II' on the front plate. But we're not going to complain The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD) much, because we really didn't find much fault with how the original Z7 handled.

And you can expect the same experience from the Z7 II: a deep, very comfortable grip, well-placed buttons and control dials, an easily readable top display and a satisfyingly 'clicky' mode dial. Okay, but we're going to nitpick a bit just because we can. Being the high-res, stills-focused camera in the range, the Z7 II wouldn't necessarily benefit from a fully articulating mechanism that video shooters prefer, but a 'two-way tilting' design such as that found on the Fujifilm X-T3 and Panasonic S1R would have been welcome.

And though the front two function buttons are well-placed, some of us on staff find them a bit 'mushy'. Other than that, though, the Z7 II feels incredibly solid in the hand and is a supremely comfortable camera to hold and use for extended periods of time. The touchscreen interface is responsive, and it's easy to switch between stills and video quickly. The arrival of a new battery grip with duplicate controls! The Nikon Z7 II's 45MP sensor is unchanged from its predecessor, and that's just fine by us: image quality is absolutely outstanding in a broad range of scenarios, and Raw files are eminently flexible.

In files from the original Z7, we did see some minor banding in the deepest shadows, but Nikon appears to have cleared that up with the new model.

Our test scene is designed to simulate a variety of textures, colors and detail types you'll encounter in the real world. It also has two illumination modes to emulate the effects of different lighting conditions.

In terms of Raw detail capture, the Z7 II puts up a really strong showing against its competition. We find that 45MP is plenty of resolution for almost any purpose; though, of course, the Sony and Panasonic offer you more resolution in their pixel shift modes assuming your photographic subjects are static enough to take advantage of them.

But really, all cameras look solid at the more realistic ISO values that you might consider shooting at. Onto the JPEGs, we find the overall color palette from these cameras to be excellent but the Nikon's yellows look to be just a bit richer and golden, and the greens a tad warmer we think those are good things.

The slightly more magenta pink patch could impact caucasian skin tones, though. JPEG detail is likewise good, though the Sony with its resolution advantage, admittedly looks a bit better as the Nikon is using clumsier, larger-radius sharpening that doesn't reveal fine detail as well. As ISO values climbthe Nikon and Canon leave behind less luminance noise than the Sony and Panasonic but also retain less low-contrast detail.

As we mentioned, the Z7 II's sensor is essentially the same as its predecessor; it uses a dual-gain design to minimize read noise above ISOso that high ISO settings have lower visual noise. As a result, the ISO and settings below the higher gain step which would lower dynamic range are a little noisier in the shadows compared to higher ISO settings — above ISO — using the same aperture and shutter speed.

The difference is impressively small, though, and so the sensor is adding really low amounts of noise to the final image, even in the lower gain state used at low ISOs. This also means that you can save four stops of highlight detail by shooting at ISO instead of ISOwith the same exposure settings, and brighten selectively — while protecting highlights — in post. You'll pay little to no extra image noise cost in doing so.

Our standard Exposure latitude test really emphasizes how little noise the camera itself is adding to your images. Even if you reduce exposure significantly, which again helps you capture additional highlight information, the Z7 II puts up a really impressive performance. We also don't see any of the banding that could sometimes occur in the very deepest shadows with the original Z7 when exposures were pushed.

A key thing to note is that ISO 64 mode allows camera to capture more light before clipping than its rivals can. This, combined with the very low noise performance seen above, means the Z7 II can capture images with cleaner tones, all the way down into the deepest shadows.

And, now the banding in the darkest tones has been resolved, this gives it an edge in terms of tonal quality and processing flexibility in situations where it's practical to use ISO ISO Invariance Exposure latitude.

The Z7 II's autofocus system is a match for that of the Z6 II, which in turn is a continuation of the improvements introduced during the lifespan of the preceding models. The major change is that the human and animal detection features are now built into variants of the 'wide-area' and 'auto-area' AF area modes. The provision of a Wide-Area AF L-people mode provides a way to predetermine where in the frame you want the camera to look for its subject, which provides a way to pre-select which person the camera is going to focus on.

On the previous Z models you had to use 'auto-area' mode, meaning you had to wait to see who the camera focused on, before being able to select a different subject if required.

Unfortunately, unlike the latest Canon and Sony AF systems, human and animal detection system separate modes from the camera's subject tracking function. Generally we've found that the Z7 II's autofocus system is very good, but not up there with the very best of its peers.

Face and eye detection work well, successfully finding subjects even when they're quite distant, though the Z7 II's higher resolution makes it a little clearer that the camera is focusing a fraction in front of the iris than was apparent with the Z6 II. Subject tracking is, again, good, but not quite on the same level as the best in its class. It is better at tracking a distinct, moving subject than it is at sticking to the part of a larger subject that you've pointed the camera at.

This means subject tracking doesn't always work as a means of precisely placing your AF point, as an alternative to moving it with the joystick. We also encountered occasional instances where the camera would attempt to refocus, even when 'tracking' a static subject. These tests were shot using the Nikkor Z mm F2.

The Z7 II appears to have had little difficulty in identifying and following the subject around the scene but, as with many cameras, it will occasionally slightly misjudge the focus distance as the rate of the rider's approach changes. The Z7 II doesn't offer any settings to adjust the responsiveness of the autofocus only how it responds in the event of an obstacle appearing between the camera and the subject. Overall the autofocus on the Z7 II is very good.

In a couple of respects it falls behind the very best of its peers but if compared with most older cameras, particularly DSLRs, it's able to focus very effectively with minimal need for user input. It's not necessarily going to offer flawless performance for sports shooting but for landscape, studio or portrait work, it's more than good enough. The implementation, which requires you to change in and out of different area modes for different types of subject, isn't as slick as Canon and Sony have become but it's rarely too onerous.

The Z7 II also does a good job of letting you specify different parameters to stills and video modes, including exposure values, white balance, color mode and even 'i' menu configuration. This means it can be set up to allow quick jumps back and forth between modes without carrying inappropriate settings from stills to video or vice versa.

With its higher pixel count, the Z7 II isn't able to read out its whole sensor quickly enough to create its video output, and instead appears to skip some lines and only use the remainder.

The camera's 4K 60p footage appears to be skipping even more lines, which will exaggerate each of these shortcomings. However, it does at least mean that you can capture 60p footage without having to crop too far in, so you can still shoot wide-angle video.

This uses all the pixels in a 5. The further downside is that the noise performance will be that of an APS-C camera, and it's harder to find wide-angle lenses for the cropped region. This is a pretty decent result for a high-resolution camera but, if you're shooting short clips and don't need to use the camera between those clipsthe Canon EOS R5 is capable of producing incredibly detailed 4K footage from its 8K capture.

There's also a paid upgrade option to allow Raw video to be output from the camera. The latest firmware ensures the resulting files are suitable for Raw-level editing of white balance and 'ISO' when you get them to edit. Sadly, we've not had access to a camera with the Raw upgrade applied, so have been unable to test this feature. The Nikon Z7 II may appear to be a relatively subtle refresh of the original Z7 but the improvements that have been made, such as the second card slot, the option to add vertical control grip, and boosted AF performance will all increase its appeal to the kind of photographers it's aimed at.

We were impressed by how polished Nikon's first generation of full-frame mirrorless cameras were, so it's no surprise that the Z7 II works well. There's a good degree of customization without it being necessary to completely reprogram its operation. The main shortcomings and they're only really shortcomings in comparison to some very capable opposition relate to autofocus.

The tendency for Eye AF to slightly front-focus and the subject tracking's habit of focusing somewhere on the subject you selected, rather than tracking that precise point are the only real grumbles in terms of performance. More of an issue is the way AF area modes, face detection and subject tracking interact. Most photographers will find a way to make it work for the subjects they shoot, but it's not as slick as it could be and it can eat into precious custom button availability.

The rest of the cameras' ergonomics remain amongst our favorite of the current full-frame mirrorless options. The best news is that it maintains the image quality the original camera. We've seen advances in other aspects of camera performance since the original Z7 was launched but, particularly in circumstances where you can use its ISO 64 mode, there haven't been many that beat it in terms of IQ.

The Nikon Z7 II is not a cutting edge camera and it doesn't have many exciting new features to dazzle with, but it's hugely competent, very usable and noticeably less expensive than its peers. It's hard to imagine anyone being disappointed with the Z7 II, which earns a solid Silver award. It only misses out on a Gold by the tiniest margin because it doesn't particularly exceed the levels set by the best of its peers, and is behind in terms of autofocus. The a7R IV's autofocus is quicker and easier to use, and offers greater precision, in our experience.

It also offers significantly better battery life and a more detailed viewfinder. However, the Nikon offers a better video shooting experience and arguably better ergonomics. Lens choice is probably the most critical factor in deciding between the two.

The Canon can also shoot faster, has a higher resolution viewfinder and can capture truly excellent-looking 8K and 4K footage. However its battery life is noticeably worse, and it's not able to shoot its best video for extended periods, especially in the midst of heavy photographic usage, making it less dependable than you'd hope.

At ISO 64 the Nikon has the edge in terms of image quality. It's either much more substantial or simply more bulky, depending on your perspective. It offers a multi-shot high-res mode made more practical by its motion correction option. The S1R offers a nicer viewfinder and more flexible screen than the Nikon but its autofocus interface and the in-viewfinder flutter while using it leaves the Panasonic a little behind.

It shares the mis-matched card slots of the Nikon, but in the end, the noticeably lower battery life leaves us preferring the Nikon in most situations.

Please do not reproduce any of these images without prior permission see our copyright page. Scoring is relative only to the other cameras in the same category. Click here to learn about the changes to our scoring system and what these numbers mean. It's by no means taboo but we don't have a test for it, I don't remember experiencing any big differences, nor have we seen a lot of demand for it, but if there are big distinctions you've spotted, please let me know and we can keep an eye out.

They're not links to other pages, they're links to other states of the video comparison widget above the text sadly we don't have a way to make them look different.

When you click on one, you should see the two images being compared change to illustrate the point being made by the text. Should do an update review after the new firmware 1. Wherever DPR attaches the tag of a Silver award, I would like to see which camera had the Gold award in that category. Try looking at the reviews of 2 of the comparison cameras here Sony and Canon - both "Gold". Most reviews include the previous model on the comparison chart, but this one leaves out the original Z7; probably because there is no significant difference between the Z7 and Z7 II in any of the chart categories.

In fact it appears that the only really significant difference is the second card slot on the "II" version. I own a Z7 and I am very satisfied.

I can buy the Z7ii, but I don't need to. You can only buy the Z7 second-hand. So the Z7ii is a clear choice. It has more advantages 2x card, grip, AF speed, Sorry, that is NOT the case. The z7II upgrades are not to scuff at, they're quite substantial. If you're a working professional just having that second slot is worth 2x the z7 price and this is not an exaggeration, and if you do professiona video on the side the upgrades are quite substabtial.

That doesn't mean the used z7 will not always be one heck of a deal and practically perfect do-it-all camera for most enthsuiasts and many professionals. All I mean is the dollar upgrades are well worth it for many, many buyers. Great camera and a great update that was needed that second slot! Are you and "Mitoes" the same person? Why is it that you both insist on peddling the same lie, which is that the original Z7 is only available used??

From that standpoint, there is no real significant change. But elsewhere, there are So you're kind of right that there aren't many changes, but there are some, and those changes to some people are big like those who need dual card slots or want a grip. And The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD), people, 2 months later I suspect the Z7 will still be available for purchase new for another years.

I really like this Darth Vader design on the Z9. I hope that the next Z7iii and Z6iii will get it too. I don't know what lens they used on the Canon but there is an amazing amount of purple fringing in the black and white areas in the corners of the scene. None in the images from the other three cameras.

The z's pic has noticeably more detail in the paint brush in the lower right--one of my go to parts of the scene. Without a great need for overwhelmingly good af, I prioritize image quality. Looks like the z is best in this test. Of course, that's only really important if I plan on taking pics of studio scenes. I used to use the Olympus E Olympus has only had small sensors, but for many animal photographers it is still the number 1 choice.

I'll be fine with Nikon. Cameras are getting so good that reviewers are looking for unimportant things to complain about. It's a reviewers job to find faults. Mushy feeling buttons? It is a good camera and good value. IQ is superb as it is for all nikon cameras and ergonomics are mostly terrific as well. It fails relative to competition on af tracking and fps That's about it. But if not, you won't mind anything about it. I'm waiting for better performing bodies from nikon and am enjoying my r5 in the meantime.

But for what they are good at, the z bodies are really good and are excellent value. Sony Alpha a7R II. This is what I call an excellent value. What something newer? Funny how DPReview always leaves these reasonably-priced high-megapixel models off of their comparison charts. Another excellent value. Ever since the Z7 and Z7ii came out, anytime there is a new camera or lens review with an accompanying gallery, I trek back to look at the pics from these 2 cameras and to date, nothing is beating out the quality and look from them.

I wish Nikon gets up to speed on the AF issue because clearly it matters a lot in the chatterbox, but for this class of camera, hard to convince myself to spend more than what the Z7ii costs for what you get. We've created two new awards Gold and Silver to replace the retiring 'Recommended' and 'Highly Recommended' gongs. There are a couple of things to know about the awards:. They are not awarded to every camera, just those we feel deserve one There is no direct link between the overall score and the awards: they are not given automatically to cameras reaching a certain threshold.

Crucially a camera can get an award even if a camera with a higher overall score didn't. In simple terms, a camera awarded a Silver is well worth considering whereas a Gold-rated one should be at or near the top of your list. These awards are meant to be hard to achieve. If a new model raises the expected performance level for a class of camera, then that's the one you need to match to get a Gold.

In other words, simply doing as well as a camera that got a Gold in the past may not be sufficient. Trying to digitize perceptions of this sort of equipment with all its infinite subtle variety in to a stark choice is always going to be a bit of nonsense in the end. Read all the the blurb from wherever you can find it and make your own assessment is the only real answer.

Everything has to fit in to a prescribed tick box and number list nowadays which often entirely misses the point. The reasoning behind the Gold vs Silver award is just silly. I can understand the numerical score but there is no consistent nor objective method to determine if a camera receives a Gold vs Silver award. Would be simpler and be more meaningful to state whether a camera is recommended or not.

Frankinidaho recommending a camera is not black and white, yes or no. I like the fact that there is both a more objective score and a more subjective verdict. I hope we all realize that objectivity too often does not say the while picture, or you can just ignore the subjective impression leaving it out for who values it. The reviews have never been as good since someone convinced them to abandon the original "recommended, not recommended" etc.

Looks like an amazing camera. I shoot portraits and architecture and AF is well beyond what I would ever need. The strongest argument for the Z system is, beside the points mentioned above, the Z lenses. Not just for photography but also for video.

The colours, the fall off, the sharpness, all just always work. All of them. The f4S is better than the f2. Sure you can look at individual specs, but after two years of using this system I can say that you have to try this system for a couple months to appreciate how good it is.

The Z system is a monster in the making. I have here one issue that hasn't been dealt with. Which is this: I used to have a Nikon D for a couple of years, 2 or 3 years. You know what I mean with the right hand thumb rest. In Nikon D every single specimen I have seen had the problem of the soft padding coming off from the thumb rest and from the memory card cover.

They all possess the same issue. Will it last. No, it will not. For how long it lasts depends on how you use it, but this is certainly not a pro type camera body feature. Absolutely no problem with the thumb rest, card door or rubber.

He is now using Z7ii and says it is incredibly robust. Tank like. The only wear point i can report is the rubber on the eyecup.

Replaceable part. Definitely better than a D and comparable or better than D The only gripe I have with the current Z bodies is the eyepiece. It's not the most securely fitted. It constantly comes close to sliding off after being in the camera bag.

Have my D since - no peeling none whatsoever, similarly my D and Ds before that never shows any sign of peeling. My 9 year-old D doesn't have any problems whatsoever with the grip covering or the slot door, though I have lost an eyepiece cup and a grip connection cover over the years.

DDavis1: my eye piece is solid. I have to use my thumb nail to pry it off. Are you sure you are "snapping" it into place? If so, check for defects under warranty. I am fed up with Sony haters, Nikon haters and Canon haters. Somewhere there are also the Fujifilm haters. Would be a lot better idea to grow up from a sandbox quarreling. Don't you think so? Those who like Sony and have chosen it, let them enjoy Sony. Those who like Nikon and have chosen that, let them enjoy Nikon.

Those who like Canon, let them enjoy that. And also likewise with the Fujifilm. The truth is if you need super high quality photos, but not speed and flexibility landscape, portraits, products, studiothe medium format camera with a MP sensor is better than any FF or DX. If you need speed and flexibility and high quality photos, you better take the best FF cameras there are, 50MP or more with a super speed tracking ability nature photography of insects, birds, If you can deal with AF which is improved this seems like a no brainer depending on what you shoot of course.

Yes, it is a nice camera. They all are. The AF thing is ridiculous at this point. It is very close to the comparable cameras from Canon or Sony. Certainly better than anything from Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic or Leica.

Eye af, video af and full focus coverage are worth more to me than being able to perfectly track a hummingbird in flight. We can argue all day - the fact is the lens mount is not interchangeable - until someone designs a body with a modular interchangeable universal lens mount and supporting electronic we are stuck with the brand. That would be pretty awesome. Shoot your favorite body, your preferred lenses each from a different vendor.

The closest we come to that now is mtwo different body makers 3 if you count Yi and a variety of lens makers. There's also L mount, but it's kinda Panasonic's full frame party because the other significant body maker is Leica. Again, there are three if you count Sigma's little FP. It is true that no matter which body we use we always use the same lens - camera body comes and goes - lens stays - so if we have money invest on the best lens we can afford - the body - oh well just buy what we need - every camera maker has a range of bodies to suit our need - so no point arguing about a certain "flagship" body knowing full well that it is highly unlikely that it will meet our need or budget.

New set lenses are likely to be added. The question is what? I use a A7R3 and I never shoot portraits. My initial thought was: Oh, here we go again, another Sony crappy colour science post! These Sony portraits look like the people are about to puke! I included my A7R3 in the comparison tool and the skin tones looked a lot better. Looks like Sony's newest colour science for skin tones is in fact really crappy!

The A7RIV studio scene was shot while the pictures of the people were well faded. The images were replaced shortly after. This was disclosed as a disclaimer at the bottom of the A7RIV studio scene announcement article. The studio scene was never reshot. As such, they should not be used to draw comparisons between the color output of different cameras. We are aware of the issue and we are working on a solution. Thank you Mike. I was not aware of that.

DPR should definitely reshoot these scenes. For a second I almost believed the "bad Sony colour science". You can also see here the relative locations of the images are slightly different basically showing the Z7II and R5 were shot after the pictures were replaced.

I agree they should be reshot. Sorry Mike, I'm grateful for your response. My account is new so my comments are delayed pending moderation. I'm hoping to pick up the A7R IV next week! Green you say? It's no secret that Sony stays seriously loyal to their 'Bonzai Plant and Gonzilla' color I thought what was strange was that they were raw files with noticeably greener portraits.

Colour from RAW is a matter of post-processing. I'm surprised to see so many comments about Sony's colour science. That being said, it's been established that the greenish portraits have simply faded over time. Nothing to do with post-processing or colour science! Why does the weight for the Z7ii given in the comparison table read gm but in the specs read gm? Nikon UK web site says gm with battery and memory card, gm without. For the original Z7, gm and gm.

My original EN-EL15 battery weighs 86 g, whereas the EL15a and EL15b weighs exactly the same at 78 g - So Nikon have managed to reduce the battery weight at the same time improved its capacity.

I don't have a ELc so I am not sure how heavy. In the studio sample image I find Nikon to have the most pleasing skin tones. Canon's are very good too. Nikon is leaning a little more towards reds, Canon a little more towards yellow. I do like Nikons a bit better, but they're both are very close to perfect colors.

However, I feel Sony and Panasonic have a lot to catch up on regarding skin tones - way too yellow. Seriously, I have heard just about everything on manufacturer-specific 'colour science'. Luckily, these days we can take advantage of grading so this should hardly be an issue. Spot on about the absence of the two-way tilting. I still have a D and literally every time I shoot my beach calligraphy I wish it could tilt both ways. If the demand is high enough, satisfy BOTH by offering two models Adding a smartphone with snapbridge to the hot shoe or on an L-bracket provides A LOT more flexibility and quality.

Keep the camera's software as simple as possible. All of the camera's resources go into producing the images; a rangefinder approach.

However, bring back pop-up flashes with a warm LED! Sorry, but who are you to tell us how we will feel holding a particular brand of camera? Your opinion applies only to you, please don't presume to tell the rest of us how we will "feel".

Because they would still be DSLR's if it wasn't for Sony pushing the boundaries of camera technology. Actually, Olympus and Panasonic pushed those boundaries two years before Sony did. They did pioneer the mirrorless tech, but it was Sony that gave them a run for their money. Y'all think that mirrorless systems would not be able to match up to DSLR standard of performance until Sony came to the scene, changed all of that and even exceeded it. Except for the part where Olympus had face and eye tracking in9fps burst, usable e shutter, touch screen operation.

Panasonic also beat Sony to the 10 bit 4k internal recording party by several years, and let's talk about era open mount consortium. Cameras are devices, regardless of manufacturer. Devices for recording images. They always have been. Fred Mueller You're right. And the device it feels like is a glorified cellphone. The cellphone set have ruined photography. Mirrorless still doesn't compare to DSLRs in the ways that really matter and they aren't getting much better very quickly.

We've had mirrorless for almost 20 years and they still can't put a big enough battery in them to match the DSLR, much less beat them. Why is it taking so long? The best ML are smaller than the best DSLRs so why aren't they just making them a little bigger to accommodate a bigger battery.

ML didn't have to re-invent the wheel. All the technology was already out there in DSLRs. They only had to perfect a few small shortcomings. And doesn't this fact PO all you mirrorless fanboys? Why aren't you screaming at the top of your lungs for better cameras?

Bolton - The secret in the sauce is that Olympus have been using the Sony sensors to make those possible. You can also say that Google pioneered the use of computational photography. It would not be possible if Sony did not design a sensor with very high read out speeds in the first place. I've owned the original Sony A7R, and must say that it was absolutely worst full frame camera in everyday use.

Horrible shutter mechanism without EFCS was very hard to work with even on tripod. And the 3. Even in the A1 has 3. Without Kodak there had been no push in initial Sensor development by the way but that doesn't mean that without Kodak there had been no digital Cameras.

Unlike at Canon with Sony camera and sensor development are independent from each other as they sell their Sensors to competitors which otherwise would not be possible. So if there was no Sony it would be like if there had been no Kodak, or no Canon, no Nikon, no Olympus, no Fuji, all of them pushed in a field and sped up development of the competitors.

Sony is just one of many and not a holy irreplaceable fable creature. Iauma, when Canon pushed the CMOS sensor development, hardly ever changed to the dslr design from the 50's. That is what you call revolutionary. Lightright - in November Nikon introduced the mirrorless Nikon 1.

The last Nikon 1 comes with a 20MP sensor can shot up to 60 fps - so they are not a late starter - Sony also began their mirrorless camera about a year earlier in Oct with their NEX-3 and NEX-5 proprietary lens mount the Sony E-mount.

Sony on the other hand pushed for their E-mount system starting in by investing in mirrorless technology. All you have to do is check their product releases for each one of them on this site since and you'll see Sony progressively increasing their e-mount models over their a-mount, while Nikon continued with their existing DSLR line. If Nikon had a vision by going serious on mirrorless in the first place, Sony would have a competition.

Sony's mistake is not listening to naysayers of mirrorless before. During my very first Architecture class at the University, my professor gave all of us a cube and a ball in each hand, after closing our eyes, we had to pick which one feels better in our palm. It does not matter which camera you own now, just close your eyes and focus on the object in your hand. Nikon also introduced many outstanding DSLR lenses. Mirrorless is the next step in the photographic equipment evolution - Nikon and Canon jumped in at the right time - being first is not always being the best - Nikon and Canon have their own massive and historic DSLR customer base, especially Nikon - persistent with the F-Mount to protect their customers investment - unlike some companies - have no problem dropping their customers like a ton of brick leave them behind to pursuit their next goal: Canon FD abandoned for EF, EF-S, EF-M, Sony A mount evolved to NEX and then E mount.

Canon did in what Nikon did in I think the Canon ecosystem was better for it. Note also, they officially supported the mount and the cameras with repair parts for 15 whole years after they stopped selling it. Nikon is to be admired for this. I'm in no way trying to take away from them for it. They're dealing with a set of limitations imposed seventy years ago, and the time has finally come to move their primary system past those limitations. And it's time for Nikon's users to start coming along with them on this new phase of the journey.

Sure, I am seriously considering my next move to Z mount - not because it is better but it is a bit lighter - not sure I like the electronic view finder - optical is no lag what you see is what you get in full glorious natural color. Once someone shooting with a D - currently nothing on offer is equal - may be the Z8. Not looking at the Z9 will be priced possibly similar to a D6 which is way above the resource of a retiree.

When I pick up the RX it feels so wrong in my hand - so slippery and sharp edges - I have no confident in handling it, similarly to most Sony cameras - it just doesn't look right - massive lens on a tiny body. Lightright get your facts straight please. Sony took over Minolta and their DSLRs were so bad they were laughed at, they went for mirrorless not because they were revolutionary or good in that but because they had to as they couldn't compete with Canon or Nikon DSLRs.

Just like Olympus and Fuji. Now why was this even an Option? Because Canon and Nikon couldn't offer mirrorless back The Unseen View - A Last Day On Earth - Between Mirrors And Portraits (CD) but not because they didn't had the tech but because their clients were and are too demanding. Only recently EVFs became acceptable, they are far from good yet and have a long way to go but they are good enough now, and that's when Canon and Nikon entered the Market.

It is telling that so many Sony users hate on everything else and praise their own tech to heaven. People who buy other brands are usually way more relaxed, either they are not as insecure about their buying decision as Sony users or they don't connect their self-worth to their equipment, whatever it is Actually, Epson had the first Mirrorless camera.

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